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		By: MillaN		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MillaN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2018 21:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.dev4press.com/blog/wordpress/2017/gutenberg-the-good-the-bad-and-the/#comment-1292426&quot;&gt;Sophia&lt;/a&gt;.

I am also looking forward to test ClassicPress, but, for now WP with Classic Editor plugin is the best way to get rid of Gutenberg and still get normal WP. I don&#039;t expect ClassicPress fork to get stable release for at least 6 more months.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.dev4press.com/blog/wordpress/2017/gutenberg-the-good-the-bad-and-the/#comment-1292426">Sophia</a>.</p>
<p>I am also looking forward to test ClassicPress, but, for now WP with Classic Editor plugin is the best way to get rid of Gutenberg and still get normal WP. I don&#8217;t expect ClassicPress fork to get stable release for at least 6 more months.</p>

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		By: Sophia		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2018 21:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, I put in the necessary stops to prevent my websites from updating to wp gutenberg. I will be using a fork of WordPress, which is now in alpha release phase. I tested Gutenberg multiple times and each time proved to be a lesson in futility and complete frustration, not to mention wasting of my time. That’s when I decided that removing WordPress from my servers was the best option. Once the fork (ClassicPress) is ready to go live, that’s what I will be using.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I put in the necessary stops to prevent my websites from updating to wp gutenberg. I will be using a fork of WordPress, which is now in alpha release phase. I tested Gutenberg multiple times and each time proved to be a lesson in futility and complete frustration, not to mention wasting of my time. That’s when I decided that removing WordPress from my servers was the best option. Once the fork (ClassicPress) is ready to go live, that’s what I will be using.</p>

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		By: Jesper Søholm		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2018 19:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.dev4press.com/blog/wordpress/2017/gutenberg-the-good-the-bad-and-the/#comment-1290892&quot;&gt;MillaN&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanx for enlightening me! That helps to understanding the inherent obstacles in the whole project.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.dev4press.com/blog/wordpress/2017/gutenberg-the-good-the-bad-and-the/#comment-1290892">MillaN</a>.</p>
<p>Thanx for enlightening me! That helps to understanding the inherent obstacles in the whole project.</p>

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		By: MillaN		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MillaN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2018 17:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.dev4press.com/blog/wordpress/2017/gutenberg-the-good-the-bad-and-the/#comment-1290890&quot;&gt;Jesper Søholm&lt;/a&gt;.

First thing is metabox styling, that has 100% different with Gutenberg, so plugins with metaboxes relying on the previous metabox styling will look bad. That is easier to fix with additional styling. But, metaboxes that rely on interaction with the editor, other elements on the edit page (other metaboxes) will be completely broken, and what is worst, in some cases unfixable, because we no longer have one editor, each block, in essence, is an editor. Plugins that add items to the TinyMCE editor toolbar will need 100% rewrite to support toolbars in each editor block (or some of them).

The worst thing here is that Gutenberg is very badly documented, similar to all other JavaScript libraries in WordPress, and quality examples, understandable examples are very scarce, and mostly written by regular users, official documentation right now is next to useless.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.dev4press.com/blog/wordpress/2017/gutenberg-the-good-the-bad-and-the/#comment-1290890">Jesper Søholm</a>.</p>
<p>First thing is metabox styling, that has 100% different with Gutenberg, so plugins with metaboxes relying on the previous metabox styling will look bad. That is easier to fix with additional styling. But, metaboxes that rely on interaction with the editor, other elements on the edit page (other metaboxes) will be completely broken, and what is worst, in some cases unfixable, because we no longer have one editor, each block, in essence, is an editor. Plugins that add items to the TinyMCE editor toolbar will need 100% rewrite to support toolbars in each editor block (or some of them).</p>
<p>The worst thing here is that Gutenberg is very badly documented, similar to all other JavaScript libraries in WordPress, and quality examples, understandable examples are very scarce, and mostly written by regular users, official documentation right now is next to useless.</p>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2018 16:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes. I have yet to test it on a mobile phone. I&#039;ll do that. Thanx.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. I have yet to test it on a mobile phone. I&#8217;ll do that. Thanx.</p>

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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jesper Søholm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2018 16:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.dev4press.com/blog/wordpress/2017/gutenberg-the-good-the-bad-and-the/#comment-1290885&quot;&gt;MillaN&lt;/a&gt;.

I really feel your pain, MillaN. :-/ Will the Gutenberg API be the way to integrate these things. At the risk of exposing my huge ignorance on the matter of core coding, could you perhaps elaborate a little on the hurdles of closing the plugin coding gap between Gutenberg and the classic WordPress environment? If not, I understand.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.dev4press.com/blog/wordpress/2017/gutenberg-the-good-the-bad-and-the/#comment-1290885">MillaN</a>.</p>
<p>I really feel your pain, MillaN. :-/ Will the Gutenberg API be the way to integrate these things. At the risk of exposing my huge ignorance on the matter of core coding, could you perhaps elaborate a little on the hurdles of closing the plugin coding gap between Gutenberg and the classic WordPress environment? If not, I understand.</p>

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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MillaN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2018 16:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.dev4press.com/blog/wordpress/2017/gutenberg-the-good-the-bad-and-the/#comment-1290888&quot;&gt;Jesper Søholm&lt;/a&gt;.

I  think that would be possible, limit the available blocks to specific post type, or make it easy to disable blocks using filters. That would make sense with bbPress. But, Gutenberg should be able to work in the limited space, not only full screen, I would like to see how that turns out.]]></description>
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<p>I  think that would be possible, limit the available blocks to specific post type, or make it easy to disable blocks using filters. That would make sense with bbPress. But, Gutenberg should be able to work in the limited space, not only full screen, I would like to see how that turns out.</p>

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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jesper Søholm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2018 16:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.dev4press.com/blog/wordpress/2017/gutenberg-the-good-the-bad-and-the/#comment-1290886&quot;&gt;MillaN&lt;/a&gt;.

Sounds right. I&#039;m concerned about a forum that has a lot of photo sharing, and I could envision much simpler interface if we at some point allowed a matured Gutenberg with a reduced number of blocktypes. We might not have to do BBCodes then. :-)]]></description>
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<p>Sounds right. I&#8217;m concerned about a forum that has a lot of photo sharing, and I could envision much simpler interface if we at some point allowed a matured Gutenberg with a reduced number of blocktypes. We might not have to do BBCodes then. 🙂</p>

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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MillaN]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.dev4press.com/blog/wordpress/2017/gutenberg-the-good-the-bad-and-the/#comment-1290883&quot;&gt;Jesper Søholm&lt;/a&gt;.

Right now, I don&#039;t think that there will be any development for bbPress to add Gutenberg support. bbPress development is slow, and upcoming 2.6 version is few months late already, and supporting Gutenberg would require a lot of changes, that might be considered for 2.7 (or more realistically,  2.8) version. But, it is possible that someone will make a plugin for bbPress to integrate Gutenberg.

For the most part, forums don&#039;t need complex editing, and I know that most forum users are not using even TinyMCE editor, so I don&#039;t think that most websites will embrace Gutenberg in the forums on the front end.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.dev4press.com/blog/wordpress/2017/gutenberg-the-good-the-bad-and-the/#comment-1290883">Jesper Søholm</a>.</p>
<p>Right now, I don&#8217;t think that there will be any development for bbPress to add Gutenberg support. bbPress development is slow, and upcoming 2.6 version is few months late already, and supporting Gutenberg would require a lot of changes, that might be considered for 2.7 (or more realistically,  2.8) version. But, it is possible that someone will make a plugin for bbPress to integrate Gutenberg.</p>
<p>For the most part, forums don&#8217;t need complex editing, and I know that most forum users are not using even TinyMCE editor, so I don&#8217;t think that most websites will embrace Gutenberg in the forums on the front end.</p>

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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MillaN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2018 15:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.dev4press.com/blog/wordpress/2017/gutenberg-the-good-the-bad-and-the/#comment-1290882&quot;&gt;Jesper Søholm&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for the comment Jesper!

I am currently testing and updating my plugins that have metaboxes, and with the latest Gutenberg 2.4, mostly there are styling issues with metaboxes, and they work fine. There are breaking things in metaboxes that will affect plugins that need to work with the edit screen and editor area, and I don&#039;t see a solution for such plugin, other than radical code changes to support Gutenberg. At least, for now, major WordPress plugins will be updated for the Gutenberg in time, but I still think that a huge number of plugins will not be, and that will cause websites to break.

I will publish follow up article later this month, including my experience with updating plugins to work with Gutenberg.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.dev4press.com/blog/wordpress/2017/gutenberg-the-good-the-bad-and-the/#comment-1290882">Jesper Søholm</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment Jesper!</p>
<p>I am currently testing and updating my plugins that have metaboxes, and with the latest Gutenberg 2.4, mostly there are styling issues with metaboxes, and they work fine. There are breaking things in metaboxes that will affect plugins that need to work with the edit screen and editor area, and I don&#8217;t see a solution for such plugin, other than radical code changes to support Gutenberg. At least, for now, major WordPress plugins will be updated for the Gutenberg in time, but I still think that a huge number of plugins will not be, and that will cause websites to break.</p>
<p>I will publish follow up article later this month, including my experience with updating plugins to work with Gutenberg.</p>

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		By: Jesper Søholm		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2018 14:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And BTW, MillaN, what do you know about and how do you see the possibilities of Gutenberg in bbPress? I think you would be qualified to comment on that better than most people?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And BTW, MillaN, what do you know about and how do you see the possibilities of Gutenberg in bbPress? I think you would be qualified to comment on that better than most people?</p>

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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jesper Søholm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2018 14:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanx for your words on Gutenberg. With your huge back-catalogue of plugins the community really ought to listen to your warnings. I really agree on your overall call for caution, if not necessarily a 100% backward compatibility. But at least some alternative for existing solutions. And I think it would be sensible to make Gutenberg a general settings option for a good long time. 
Now, we know that Matt M &#038; co have made some really sensible strategic decisions over the years, so I&#039;m sure this time will not be different. I think everybody knows how much is at stake here. We should focus on the irreversible changes. The ones that will be hard to work around in future updates. The very basic choices (like regex vs JSON) are really important. So a good long roll out period to pick up experiences in the real world would be wise. 
I&#039;m looking forward to your update article. Maybe not so much on the nitty-gritty bugs that are not yet fixed, but the larger strategic scope. 
PS: You might want to edit your final words about React, as you have done earlier in the article. ;-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanx for your words on Gutenberg. With your huge back-catalogue of plugins the community really ought to listen to your warnings. I really agree on your overall call for caution, if not necessarily a 100% backward compatibility. But at least some alternative for existing solutions. And I think it would be sensible to make Gutenberg a general settings option for a good long time.<br />
Now, we know that Matt M &amp; co have made some really sensible strategic decisions over the years, so I&#8217;m sure this time will not be different. I think everybody knows how much is at stake here. We should focus on the irreversible changes. The ones that will be hard to work around in future updates. The very basic choices (like regex vs JSON) are really important. So a good long roll out period to pick up experiences in the real world would be wise.<br />
I&#8217;m looking forward to your update article. Maybe not so much on the nitty-gritty bugs that are not yet fixed, but the larger strategic scope.<br />
PS: You might want to edit your final words about React, as you have done earlier in the article. 😉</p>

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		By: MillaN		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MillaN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.dev4press.com/blog/wordpress/2017/gutenberg-the-good-the-bad-and-the/#comment-1290702&quot;&gt;Erich&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for the comment Erich! Gutenberg has come a long way since the version I reviewed in this article, and I plan to revisit the Gutenberg soon. Many things are still a problem, but a lot of other things are much better now. I am trying each version as it is released, testing with mine plugins, and it is getting better. I will wait for 2.1 version to do a new review.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.dev4press.com/blog/wordpress/2017/gutenberg-the-good-the-bad-and-the/#comment-1290702">Erich</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment Erich! Gutenberg has come a long way since the version I reviewed in this article, and I plan to revisit the Gutenberg soon. Many things are still a problem, but a lot of other things are much better now. I am trying each version as it is released, testing with mine plugins, and it is getting better. I will wait for 2.1 version to do a new review.</p>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2018 21:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi MillaN,

Thanks for your in depth article about this. Since Gutenberg was announced I migrated my website away from Wordpress and to IPS. I hate that I had to do this and maybe it was a knee-jerk reaction to the announcement. Still, I miss my Wordpress and the community that supports it. I&#039;m not against change and I fully support change that will foster improved Wordpress performance overall. I had hoped that this would drive Wordpress towards PHP7 with all of the performance improvements I expect. From reading your article, it seems like it is being forced as a way to end commercial plugins such as Visual Composer and even yourself. I hope that the final product will be great and will help grow development of great plugins like bbpress Toolbox, but I fear it&#039;s going to cause so many problems when they make the final push to core.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi MillaN,</p>
<p>Thanks for your in depth article about this. Since Gutenberg was announced I migrated my website away from WordPress and to IPS. I hate that I had to do this and maybe it was a knee-jerk reaction to the announcement. Still, I miss my WordPress and the community that supports it. I&#8217;m not against change and I fully support change that will foster improved WordPress performance overall. I had hoped that this would drive WordPress towards PHP7 with all of the performance improvements I expect. From reading your article, it seems like it is being forced as a way to end commercial plugins such as Visual Composer and even yourself. I hope that the final product will be great and will help grow development of great plugins like bbpress Toolbox, but I fear it&#8217;s going to cause so many problems when they make the final push to core.</p>

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